We are unknowingly being converted to Islam, says Simpkins

Southern Brother

15/06/2013

Hey Tariq
I've worked in an export abattoir that supplied "halal" meat and I've seen the so-called "special" method and "prayer" used by Muslim slaughtermen. It's a load of crap.

Tariq

16/04/2013

Hi. I am a muslim and I am one by choice. The subject being discussed here is fascinating. I would like to make a few points, for anyone who wants to contemplate and have a little information on this topic. First of all one should ask why these companies sell halal food. The answer is that they want to profit more. So how does halal meat helps. Well simple it lasts longer in freezer,is more soft, and tastes better cause blood is drained fully of the animal. There is mor to halal than this but these are main reasons non islamic food suppliers go for halal meat. Secondly halal is way of slaughtering and if people wants to know yes they have the righ to know. Thirdly just because someone is muslim doesn't mean they are doing the slaughtering in proper islamic way. The proper islamic way is least painful way of slaughtering and if anyone wants to debate that I am ready. Lastly there other things that are halal too so people should know them too so they can be careful like water,fruits, etc

max

23/02/2013

as an impartial person I can tell u/ killing the animal the way is said in Islam blocks immediately the oxygen to the brain...and the animal feel nothing..it cuts carotid /spinal cord in seconds.......more humane anyway...

Gaz

28/12/2012

What an idiotic point of view. The only time you have changed your beliefs based upon what you eat is when you've started eating people. THAT would make you a cannibal. As for halal: If Muslims would be a little less conformist with regards to the inhumane treatment of animals while they are alive and not speed rear animals for slaughter as is commonly done, I'd have more respect for them. From what I've read about the religion Islam, I'd say there isn't a single follower anywhere in the world. Put it this way: if Islam is not good enough for Muslims, why do they think it's good enough for the rest of us? Practice what you preach and learn the things you teach.

max

24/11/2012

One stupid born ever day in Australia ....go sit in a pub and drink instead of passing uninformed answers to the Australian public ...about meat converts to islam that's all you good for

illawarrrior

21/11/2012

As an Aussie, I am a firm believer in freedom and choice. Australians have always been people who accept anyone who accepts them. Diversity has always been welcome. What is NOT welcome, are those who come here trying to change those who are already here, and expecting "rights" that they are not willing to reciproacte.

Amity

15/09/2012

Dam straight Angela!!! And Kudos to you Luke Simpson!
Muslims are causing MAJOR problems in our country........for starters they dont even associate with the rest of us.....i mean the women still wearing the burkas in the street that alone needs to STOP immediately this is not Islam its Australia. As for the Halal slaughtering.......well i volunteer for 2 Animal rights groups which is more than i can say for any of you on here.......& it is EVIL & CRUEL....somehing that is outdated & not acceptable terrorists do this sort of thing...There is NO WAY IN HELL im eating something that has been certified Halal or Kosher the thought of it makes me want to vomit

John

12/08/2012

I have spent years studying Islam and I can't believe the ignorance of some of these comments. The word Islam means to submit, and that is exactly what we are doing. The removing of pork from school menu's, allowing of sharia courts, the removal of nativity scenes from shopping centre's, etc. Islam is intent on world domination. Convert, leave or die will be heard frequently in the not too distant future. The persecution of non-muslims is increasing at an alarming rate. I don't know why so many politicians are allowing this rapid growth/threat and I fear for my grandchildren. Most european countries are already in the grip of conflict and yet the appeasing continues. Luke Simpson is brave to speak out and I for one would stand with him.

Elizabeth

09/08/2012

I would like to be given the choice and not tricked into eating foods that I dont wish to. The labels on foods in all supermarkets SHOULD BE LABELED. I dont care what religion the person is I have the right as an Australian to know if I was eating halal foods.

Khan

09/08/2012

I have always admired Australians for being better than British and Americans. But after reading this and comments, I must say I am shocked. No, you can't become a Muslim by just eating halal stuff. You have to believe in basics of Islam. So don't worry, your religion or no religion is intact. Secondly, halal stuff is good for your body, look it up. Scientific research has been done on it. Researchers also declared it that our way is more humane as it gives sleeping sensation to the animal. It is easy to mock Muslims but please don't become American fools who do it without having any knowledge of what they are talking about.

LOL

27/06/2012

Wow, media sheep never cease to amaze me.
Halal Standards = Kosher Standards, but I've never heard anyone crying about being converted to Judaism.
Infact this uneducated example should be grateful halal products are really coming up on the market. Why?
Well anyone who has done their scientific research on the matter would realize that the halal/kosher standards are safer and cleaner. So much so that ECG exams proved the animals slaughtered were not in a heightened stated of fear contrary to western slaughtering standards. Which means less cortisol was apparent, which means less horomones in the meats you consume. Which means less health problems. OH MY GOSH SUCH A BAD THING.
Halal/Kosher standards are infact so clean (Jewish communities pride themselves on) that kosher slaughter houses in particular are infact generally exempted from USA FDA regulations.
It's just better for your well-being.

Icebabyboo

15/05/2012

HAHAHAH!! You guys are pathetic if you think just be eating meat your getting converted to Muslim! Look just coz some dumb people who were Muslim doesn't mean ALL MUSLIMS are the same! In our religion and the holy Quran we are NOT told to "kill" anyone whom are not Muslim nor be against people whom are not Muslim either! Don't borge everything you hear because isn't that the first things you should have learnt?!! Being pet hati as to just give crap to Muslims, most of us are struggling in out own country and many are being killed by people of out own! The are bad people who are Muslim but there are also good. Just like any other religion. But look at it this way, who started ww1, ww2? Not us surely, so get a grip and stop making all this bull crap about "Muslims are trying to destroy every race blah blah blah" grow up and have some common sense! Ignorant fools

susan

14/04/2012

halal mark is also on food products in aussie 2% goes to the muslim religion and terrorists known fact they are also bringing sharia law into this country big mistake and has for killing of animals were i work in a a pig abbottair they put them to sleep with a gas and then cut there throats the big pigs they shoot much better than letting a poor animal suffer for a while longer all i have to say is wake up people and see whats really happening to this world ww111 is just around the corner

Amina Sarfudin

30/12/2011

I sent my daughter to a Catholic School and she graduated with more commitment to Islam then what she had started with. Stop trying to make something out of nothing just to gain some extra votes you are pathetic.

Lyne Jones

30/12/2011

The Indians were the first to introduce the concept of the zero and the power of the zero. Islamic scholars rediscovered this concept, it was not their initial discovery. They were not the first to use it.

The more Muslims I meet, the more I like Muslims. They are making a valuable contribution to Australia. Muslims have lived in Australia since the early days. The Mosque in Perth has been there a long time. Take time and talk to some refugees, you will find them charming, pleasant and interesting people. Their modest dress code and shunning of alcohol are to be admired. We could all benefit if we followed their example.

I thought Australians were noted for their tolerance, please be tolerant.

sarah

28/12/2011

the process of producing halal meat wasn't put just like that, there is a wisdom from behind it and you could check it yourself. Experiments prove that an animal killed using the islamic way gets rid of all the blood in the animal (supplied that the animal belongs to what is allowed in Islam) and is the most healthy for you, so why not trying it? Try or research for the differences in halal meat and non halal meat, if you have the needed equipments try killing 2 animals in the 2 different ways and then test the meat. We believe in Islam that God knows best and that we don't but God has given us a mind to think with and has created in the universe what gives evidence about his existance and also about the true and right religion and He has supplied us with the Quraan the last book which is still saved from changes from 14 centuries and will always be in its first language arabic. However, as muslims we follow our religion in every detail and can't just come with rules from our minds

Allan

18/12/2011

If Simkins and his party are so worried about us becoming Muslims why is it that they did not back the Labor Party when they wanted to send the Illegal immigrants to Malaysia. Tony Abbot sits on the fence trying to convince people he is for Australians. It is his own ego he is interested in. Come on Luke why doesn't your party tell the truth?

Andrew Situ

14/12/2011

What a load of bollocks. Where I come from (Singapore), most of the meat supply is halal. Does that mean I am a Muslim convert? No way. I was baptised a Catholic and will remain so.

Mr Simpkins should resign as a MP. His views hold no water and sound more like a childish rant than anything else. For someone who makes such sweeping comments, it is unsuitable for him to hold any political office.

Shaz

06/12/2011

If you knew what "halal" meant..you might change your minds! From Wikipedia. Ḏabīḥah (ذَبِيْحَة) is the prescribed method of slaughtering all animals excluding fish and most sea-life per Islamic law. This method of slaughtering animals consists of using a well sharpened knife to make a swift, deep incision that cuts the front of the throat, the carotid artery, wind pipe and jugular veins but leaves the spinal cord intact.[2] The head of an animal that is slaughtered using halal methods is aligned with the Qiblah. In addition to the direction, permitted animal should be slaughtered in the name of Allah (the Lord) and the person who is slaughtering should be a Muslim and he/she should be in a good mental condition and faith. I didn't agree to this! Didn't anyone ask the Australian public if they were happy consuming products slaughtered in this inhumane way???

Linda Thorpe

30/11/2011

If you're worried about the mistreatment of animals, don't eat meat.
If you're worried about "unknowingly being converted to Islam", don't be stupid.

Baloch

30/11/2011

Inghams chickens is not halal dude. and what stupid remarks are these. u can be half way converted to islam by eating halal chicken or meat? LOL! that is somewhat hilarious.

Fowlsfeet

30/11/2011

Are they Gluten Free ?

Anne

30/11/2011

To all of you people that mock Luke Simpkins go to a slaughterhouse and watch the barbaric practice of killing animals for halal meat, this issue was brought to light by the Indonesian slaughterhouses where our live export animals had the misfortune to be sent. We need someone to speak up about this ignorance. Muslim religion is NOT the problem, it is the middle age practices that go with it, ie the process of halal meat, cutting the animals throat whilst it is fully conscious, WHY can the animals not be stunned first??????????

mags

30/11/2011

As usual Australians bury their heads in the sand. Why havent I got right not to eat halal slaughtered meat. This is just another way for this religeon to creep into our society. Wake up australia havent you noticed who is causing all the trouble in Britain. One day we will take notice!

Dougie

29/11/2011

I have to agree with Mr Simpkins. I've just eaten some Turkish delight and now have an uncontrolable urge to belly-dance, grow a luxuriant moustache and set fire to my ear hair.
Please help!!

nina

29/11/2011

I hope both tolerant and intolerant,Christians Jews and Muslims pray that Mr Simkins finds a You-tube video that shows him the specifics of - how to un-twist his knickers (I cook korean cabbage pickle for my korean friend,and fart friendly beans for the vegetarian.Both know that it's fool hardy to try to "Convert" me to their or any of the other 7 billion incorrect viewpoints on the planet)

Kiwi Kelly

29/11/2011

Can you guys here me laughing all the way from New Zealand?

Barry S from NZ

29/11/2011

Do you realise that the meat they talk about is more than likely so small. Sausages are made of left over crap and bread crumbs. Take away the crap and bread crumbs you are left with a couple of teaspoon of meat.

SonyaMath

28/11/2011

I had some new Australian Muslims come to share our Christmas celebration with us one year. We bought Halal chicken so they could share with us. My mother said a 'Hail Mary' over the chicken as she was cooking it to make herself feel better. We have Kosher food when my Jewish friends come to eat. As a Christian, I can eat what I want and as a hostess I choose to make my guests welcome. I love our multi-cultural, multi-religious country - let it be.

Mary Right

28/11/2011

MR-Countinuing my coment ...
If we as a country say we won’t PRACTISE/ACCEPT?LEGALIZE POLIGAMY, but we open our arms to ALL muslims families married as poligamists aren’t we converting to rules of Islam! RESEARCH and THINK AUSTRALIA THINK! Islamis a political religion with an agenda.
If now that they are minority part of sharia law is already in power in OZ, we can just imagine in 10-20-30 years when their families with 6+kids of 1 wife ONLY ( imagine 4 wives)... when their families have have 6+ (our 24+) adults to vote and make choices for Australia!!And, yes they are accepted here with all rights of an Australian permanent resident or citizen... each child and each wife!! THINK Australia THINK.
I can just imagine in a Muslim country someone/various business selling non-halal meat to Muslims without telling them...won't happen coz Muslims won't permit!

Mari Right

28/11/2011

Lots of people missing out the point! Not even the news and journalist are getting/researching it right! If they just went and research the Koran they would find what Luke saying..and he is JUST QUOTING from the book Muslims follow...what Koran says and Muslims do!
If we all accept that we should eat halal meat, without knowing/ the freedom of choice...AREN'T we converting to rules of Islam? Even tough we are not practicing all their rules??! THINK AUSTRALIA THINK! Islam is a political religion with an agenda...If it is not already taken from their website this is what is written at Harvey Beef website:
"Harvey Beef's slaughtering methods comply with Halal religious and cultural criteria". If now that they are minority part of sharia law is already in power in OZ, we can just imagine in 10-20-30 years when their monogamous families with 6+kids...have 6+ adults to vote and make choices for Australia!

mark

28/11/2011

well, if a person can claim that a human being is son (/daughter) of god, it s no wonder they can claim such silly ideas. Notice that I don't use the word "believe" because as for my experience, I haven't seen anyone actually believes that.

Indra

28/11/2011

Mr Simpkins has appealed to unintelligent voters who are not aware of the real situation. Thankfully some of that group who read these online publications may get the chance to see a cross section of views sent in by other readers and get the chance to obtain a broader perspective and not blindly accept Mr Simpkin's personal lop sided opinion.

Come come Mr Simpkins, how can you justify being sent to Parliament by us, if you are using your time and resources to be a rabble rouser. My household carries many votes, and I am quite sure that you have lost all or most of these in future. You have very clearly displayed you ignorance and lack of capacity to represent a cross section of voters, who are Australians.

By the way, we are not Muslims, as such kindly do not think that this is a religious response. This is a pure Australian response, as also noted by the high percentage of those who have objected to your opinion.

mrgilbe1

28/11/2011

Just so you know, all New Zealand lamb is halal killed. I don't know but wouldn't be surprised if Aussie lamb is the same, it just makes economic sense.

Pete B

28/11/2011

Wow Luke. Did you ever wonder at the Taj Mahal's magnificence (Islamic architecture), play chess (invented a thousand years ago in Iran), use the number Zero or learn algebra (both from Islamic scholars)?

My sympathies go out to the people of Cowan electorate for their embarrassment at being represented in Canberra by this person.

If the quality of national leadership is a function of the quality of Party representatives we have much to worry about.

5318008

27/11/2011

The problem is if Luke Simpletonkins eats his words, he'd turn into an even bigger imbecile. Which is impossible, so the universe divides by zero and would stop existing.

ahmed

27/11/2011

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! Ive never laughed so hard in such a long time, thank you minister for this joke. Also, if anyone on here wants to stop interpreting islam their own way and making judgements, why dont you actually speak to some for imams or muslims for a change and learn something.

rainbow

27/11/2011

we should worry about the labeling of all type of foods especialy GM
fresh fruit and vegies and all type of meats ,that's where the politicians focus should be .I ask you how many of us know what we are really being fed anyway,maybe the halal issue has opened up our minds and eyes towards better and healthier foods....

the sooner we all realize we are on this planet wether we like it or not we can't get off ,and being different is what makes up this wonderful world. remember this whole world was created by our creator for us humans to enjoy and live in harmony and respect every living thing
God is great.

Orhan

27/11/2011

Weak people rely on fear mongering... Halal as a terminology means permissible, Muslims are encouraged to eat Halalan Tayyiba or wholesome and permissible foods, that means organically fed, humanely looked after animals far from caged, abused, and fed rubbish or meat by products (such as giving cows offals and other cow meat etc which caused mad cows disease many years ago - hey they are herbivores not omnivores like us). Halal does not apply to just meat, but anything that a Muslim consumes, wears, buys, sells etc. The animal spends it's life for us to enjoy on a platter, and for that we thank God for providing us this nourishment. If an animal has been injured, diseased, treated badly or fed filth, then we abstain from eating such meat. Organically fed animals and their products are very important... Have a look on YouTube about a documentary produced by the vegans on animal cruelty in the US of A and you will definitely do more research before you consume meat... Eat less meat :)

septua

26/11/2011

I see it all. It's not about real news reporting. It's about putting ridiculous stories to print to see how many stupid, sometimes literate but most times illiterate, ill informed and biased comments your 'stories' generate. You are achieving your aim Congratulations!

Elizabeth

26/11/2011

Its time to reread your bible. Jewish, Christian, Muslim, all started from the same place, with the same Dad (Abraham) and same sacred texts (Old Testament). Just for the record Allah - is the Islamic word for the English/Christian word God. Not a foreign God, but 'La ilaha illa’llah' – there is no god but God.
Why don’t you watch the SBS programme IMMIGRATION NATION: THE SECRET HISTORY OF US, and see what sort of bigoted thinking has been behind Christian British majority here in Australia.
Conversion to Islam by food policies? Nope the issue is xenophobia and small minded fear of anything different. Hey that Jewish boy Jesus, taught compassion and love for minorities and outcasts. ... Yep, time to reread that Bible and get an Interfaith world view.

Sandra

26/11/2011

Just for the record, Halal meat is in fact slaughtered very similarly to Kosher requirements. In fact, the Quran states that Muslims are permitted to eat Kosher food because of the similarities. But nobody has ever had a problem with Kosher labels. Had the concern been with the treatment of animals, then both faiths would have been equally targeted. You can try and sugar coat Luke's statements as much as you like, but at the end of the day - it's obvious xenophobia.

Robert Pulson

26/11/2011

This is why religion and politics should stay well apart. You end up with idiots like this wasting the Earth's precious time with superstition.

Anniebello

26/11/2011

Some people just don't get it. Luke isn't saying that eating halal meat will convert you, he's saying that meat from animals killed this way should be labelled as such so we can all make a choice. A minority of the population should not be able to take away EVERYONE's ability to choose. It's take-over (or 'conversion') of our way of life by stealth! Do you think for a second that you could be 'non-halal' food in a Muslim country. Make allowances by all means but let them be transparent! Money from the sale of the halal 'sign' goes where?? and funds what?? It's unaccountable. All Luke is doing is sticking up for our way of life and as one of his constituents, I applaud him!

Gerechtigheid

26/11/2011

Do not let ISLAM get you down. The goverment's from a whole lot of country's are afraid to stand up against ISLAM. So the people have to do it themselves.
Gr.

Holland EU

APRIL

26/11/2011

err thats like saying that if you eat a carrot your vegan, what a load of paranoid BS

JV

26/11/2011

People
As an Australian I do not feel that we should change our way of life for a minority group of approx 2% of the population. We should not have to pay for the "extra costs” involved in companies producing Halal food. I have no problem with manufactures producing Halal food but add the extra costs involved to those items not make all Australians pay for something that is not required under our Australian way of life.

Liam

26/11/2011

Halal meat preparation in Australia means the animal is stunned, prior to having its jugular cut. It is not in the presence of other animals and yes the slaughterer says "ho allah" or some such. Halal meat preparation means the animal MUST NOT BE HARMED prior to slaughter. Quite frankly, the meat producers want to make money and I'm fine with this. It's a considerably more humane way of slaughtering the animals. AND NO IT DOESN'T CONVERT US TO A RELIGION. Simpkins saw this story in the US and he's trying to claim it as his own. Unfortunately for him, it's complete nonsense.

sam

26/11/2011

What a lot of rubbish, dont we have more important things to worry about? im sure if a muslim ate a piece of christmas pudding that wouldnt mean we r trying to subconsciously convert them to christianity. Australia is a secular country we cant call it a Christian country, more people are leaving Christianity for no religion at all and churches are for sale all over the country. Steggles products are labelled halal, just read the back of the packaging.

Sean

26/11/2011

?!
Why is there such a fuss being kicked up over this?
Had I known people takes these petty things so seriously, I would have made up "kosher friendly" and "halal friendly" stickers and randomly put them on all the meat (including the pork) in the shopping centre on a regular basis just for laughs.
Hahahahaha, all you poeple with invisible friends are so funny.

alan

26/11/2011

spot on mate thanks for alerting me to this. now in my area there are Jewish butchers if I eat kosher sausages will I become a rabbi? halal and kosher preparation methods are the same.

Melissa

26/11/2011

The issue isn't unlabelled Halal meat, it is unlabelled meat full stop. We, as consumers, are entitled to know where our meat comes from, exactly how it was slaughtered, and how it was kept/treated prior to slaughter. All of this information should be on every meat package sold in Australia. Stop this atrocious anti-Islamic sentiment and direct the outrage to the Australian livestock industry and the companies who package, label and sell meat in this country.

Bill of Queensland

26/11/2011

Emphasis on Halal obscures far more serious issues! Hear what Imans are preaching in the Mosques! Muslims want to take over by conquest or weight of numbers, suspend Jihad when met with too much resistance, start again when conditions are favourable. They fought very hard to have Islamic texts exempted from the English 2005 bill aimed at curbing religious hatred. European countries have discovered that they allowed entry to an inimical group which aggressively demands special treatment and refuses to integrate with the host society.

Jack Zedee

26/11/2011

if 2% of the nation demands we , the rest bow to them whats left of democracy ? why cant they do what jewish folks did and have thweir own butchers, done their way ? why force us ? as thats the plan , no other religions allowed under islam , wake up you idiots .. this is a take over

Jim

26/11/2011

It unbelievable how gullible, nieve and ridiculous some of you people are. Do you think luke ACTUALLY meant if you eat halal food you will be converted to Islam? If you believe that you truly are sniffing the fumes of the politically correct world far to much. It is obvious to anyone with half a rational thought that he is noting just one instance out of many in how this country is being Islamised from within. This is not just the barbaric practice of halal butchery.. it is the implementation of this religious rubbish from a minority in our schools, financial institutions, and the list goes on and on....

I have no doubt many of you on here were fully against the cruelty to animals case in Indonesia early this year where the govt stopped ALL animals being sent for humane reasons... yet in your own country you cower with apathy for a barbaric practice that would be banned if it weren't under the guise of "religion".

Why dont some of you google the practice of halal butch

Ellen

26/11/2011

Wow, you even made headlines in Holland (that country with the politician with blond-died hair and fake blue eyes so he looks like an Arian) with you brainles rant- man you're sick. But Wilders (that weird politician from Holland) is most likely very proud of you. Ever thought of dying your hair and taking fake lenses?

Darrell

26/11/2011

“By having Australians unwittingly eating Halal food, then we are all one step down the path of conversion..."

What a moron. Does he actually believe this? My God, you people are stupid.

e

26/11/2011

What a stupid thing to worry about. Just put bacon on it, it cancels out the Islam.

A Ransom

26/11/2011

I would be keen to hear Cowan MHR Luke Simpkins opinion of Genetically Modified foods, - wondering if he thinks our eating the Roundup Ready Canola, will equally make us immune to the perpetual accumulation of increase applications of Roundup from our vegetables in our bodies?? and also crop fed livestock that make up all our blessed sausages.

Hopefully he will understand the seriousness and the implications on an already desperate health system with extra budgeting required for years to come.

For those Snagger lovers with a phobia about blessings, I hope they appreciate the blessings that they already enjoy - arms, legs, sight, hearing etc..
and - if they are really concerned, Im sure they could write a chant with a verse or two that would undo the Halal Blessing..

Chuck

26/11/2011

I am ashamed of how many ignorant people inhabit my country. You do not blink at buying bread with a Circled U, A K in a star or Triangle, Or any other number of Kosher Marks. You may SCHLEP Something up the steps, have a computer GLITCH, do you say GUZUNTIGHT or when some one sneezes? Cultural integration is all part of being part of this country, The Great Melting Pot. Sure there are some Muslims who are evil, but there are Christians who bomb abortion clinics and Federal buildings too. The Majority of Muslims seem to be fine people, as do the Majority of Christians or any other religion
Let Freedom Ring and enjoy the strength new culture adds to our nation

Slayne

26/11/2011

It is clear, not a single commenter knows what "halal" meat is.
Not one of you mentioned the Islamic prayers dedicating the meat to allah.
To the one who said we should read our bible; animals need to bleed out, forgot where it says we should not eat food dedicated to foreign gods.
Eating halal food will not convert you to Islam.
Knowingly eating it is a step of acceptance of Islam into our daily lives, into our homes, our meals.

Ira Shlamazel

25/11/2011

I really had no idea Aussies were such idiots! Do you even know what halal is? Clearly not. Are you going to freak out over kosher pickles?

Crikey dingo, you are such stereotypes!

Stile4aly

25/11/2011

Eyes Wide Open is absolutely right. We need to stop allowing Muslim words into our society. Words like Algebra, Sugar, and Coffee have been converting unknowing Christians for centuries.

In fact, it's recently come to my attention that Muslims spend most of their time breathing oxygen. All good Christians should immediately start holding their breath!

ErnestPayne

25/11/2011

Apparently this nonsense is designed to see if Australians are as crazy and stupid as Americans. Not the Australians I have had the pleasure of meeting.

Annie

25/11/2011

you are a strange strange man. who careshow a cow is killed its still meat. When meat is halal its just less evil and mechanical the way the animal is killed so shut ur freaking mouth

sleepless3

25/11/2011

Darkthrone cracks me up.

John

25/11/2011

. Noones being converted just because you eat a certain food.
Guessing he voted for Pauline Hanson.

Zed

25/11/2011

Luke Simpkins, I don't know how you made it to the point you are now, when i read your pathetic comment, i could not believe it since i am Muslim. I normally have barbecue with my Aussie mates at the beach and not knowing if the meat are HALAL or whatever coz really its just meat and people have different believe in killing those poor animals!
WE ARE AUSTRALIANS and PEOPLE like YOU divides US which is very unforunate:(

Please don't make such comment like that again beecause you won't be a prime minister with such horrenduous comments.

Dirk Flinthart

25/11/2011

Just when you think you've seen the limits of human ignorance as embodied in a clueless politician... along comes this guy.

Even more amazing, I see there are some utterly clueless brain-squeezings who seem to believe he has a valid point. Of course, none of them seems to have the faintest idea of what "Halal" means, let alone a coherent explanation for how eating meat of any kind can magically transform you into some kind of worshipper..

My real question: why does any form of news outlet give this cretinous, mouthbreathing haemorrhoid any kind of publicity? Wasn't there a valuable 'talking dog story', or perhaps a 'lost kiddy toy returned by good samaritan' piece that could have usefully filled this space? Hell, even another Justin Bieber paternity test is more like news than this.

the internet

25/11/2011

obvious troll

chezza

25/11/2011

i have news for you WALDO in what world when you eat a certain type of food to u convert in to a certain reliligion!? wow! that was a foolish remark to make mate! do you even know what hahal meat is im not a muslim my self, but come on people lets get some perspective here its MEAT people eat so much crap out there, and now this minor speculation is creating an uproar from what i know about muslims they kill their food with a bit if dignity they only thing that makes it differ from regular meat is that fact that they cut it from the neck in one motion, so the animal doesnt suffer too much, and all the blood get drained out, so its what they see as pure

Dirk

25/11/2011

Luke Simpkins: You are an absolute failure as a human being and don't deserve to be in any position of political power.

mtggsmith

25/11/2011

Help! I only eat burnt black sausages and I hate BBQ'S, what am I becoming?

enduro

25/11/2011

What a disgrace ... food being prepared in a non-harmful way that everyone can easily access and confidently enjoy eating it.

I've noticed that my favourite Supermarket's sausages have been tasting differently for the last few months but I'm pretty sure it has more to do with cost cutting and crap ingredients rather then the Halal slaughter and processing. We should be more concerned with what goes into the foods than who eats them.

Though I am agnostic, I appreciate the Halal practices ask for fair treatment of animals, non-intensive farming practices (free range) and these practices are a good thing. It's also a good thing that the beast is thanked for it's flesh. They are pretty much how the rest of the has been doing it for thousands of years.

disasterboy.info

25/11/2011

as a vegetarian, I think I might need to frighten this ridiculous man, some more.
many mainstream cheddars use non-animal rennet. The cheddar is not labelled as suitable for vegetarians, but it is. soon by eating such cheese all these omnivores are unwittingly losing their taste for meat.

This shows what a nut this man is. Is upset that kosher unleavened breads might not be labelled kosher? some Pita breads may be turning people jewish unwitttingly. Careful having lamb chops at the barbie, because theres no beef you might be unwittingly goung down the dastardlay path of Ghandian Hinduism.

p.S. if you MUST have pork sausages, buy those. Easy.

Sally

25/11/2011

Tragedy has struck, everybody; I accidentally ate some Kosher hotdogs the other day and they've turned me Jewish! All of a sudden I'm lighting candles every Shabbat and having a Bat Mitzvah! They have forced me to pray in a synagogue for the rest of my life. Oy vey! I'll never eat cheeseburgers again!

Margaret

25/11/2011

This guy is spot on, I don't want to eat halal meat, I'm not a Muslim and as such do not want to eat meat that has been sacrificed to a muslim god. This is as offensive to my beliefs as it is to a Muslim eating non halal- we of other beliefs and religions should be given the same respect as Muslims to know exactly what we are being sold. I make a point of buying non halal and will continue to do so, I and many others would appreciate the opportunity to decide for ourselves what we consume with the labeling of all meat.

Cav Gallagher

25/11/2011

To you people who actually believe that eating food prepared a certain way changes your religious beliefs: I'm going to teach a chicken to read a book, then serve you some drumsticks marinated in intelligence.

HughB

25/11/2011

Does Luke Simpkin actually believe this ludicrous claim? Or is it just a dogwhistle to the woefully ignorant?

Frankly I'm staggered that anyone capable of saying something so monumentally stupid should be considered intelligent enough to be one of our elected representatives.

Kat Serax

25/11/2011

This is all SPECTACULARLY entertaining! Keep it up! :-)

Eyes wide open

25/11/2011

Wake up people it is your comments that are ill-informed. The issue here is that we are being force fed halal meat. I choke at even the fact that muslim words are creeping into our language. It is yet another insidious way that this ideology is creeping like a worm into our culture and society. It is nothing to do with conversion to religion it is adjustment of our attitudes by an overly vocal and bullying minority group which is the real issue here. And while ostriches have their heads in the sand the worms will crawl inside their brain.

cybacaT

25/11/2011

Bernardi is right - it' a disgrace that we're being forced to live this muslim way of life without any choice. The apathetic out there are pathetic in accepting this slow gradual conversion of Australia to Islam. Learn your history and see if any country has benefited from Islam - it is unequivocally bad for societies.

Lisa

25/11/2011

Thanks Luke for making me totally embarrassed to live in WA. Very, very stupid comments.

Darkthrone

25/11/2011

OMG, thank god someone has alerted us to this evil sneaky plan! I'm a vegan and an atheist who lives in an area of Melbourne with a high percentage of Jewish residents and I often eat certified kosher food as it's available in many, if not most, supermarkets etc in the area and is often suitable for vegans to eat. Then I slowly but surely started observing Shabbat and all the Jewish holidays. I couldn't figure out why but now I know! I also eat falafel from a shop run by Lebanese people quite regularly, they could be Muslim or Christian. Will stop that ASAP too in case the falafel is converting me to either of those religions.

How do people like this man get elected? This is scary. Seriously. Does he wear his tin foil hat in parliament?

The manner of killing involved in kosher/halal meat is a concern, but so is the way animals are raised and killed for food under 'normal' factory farming methods employed in Australia. I guess this is beside the point here, but it remains true.

adrian

25/11/2011

WOW. I swear i actually felt braincells dying trying to understand this guys POV. I dont care if the halal brand makes money of it or not, the thought that people could be converted to a kind of religion for the food they eat is the stupidest thing ive heard in years. Can't believe my hard earned cash goes to allowing morons like this voice there opinions in open parliament.

liam

25/11/2011

Luke you are supposed to represent your community.

Instead, you are introducing this purile nonsense in a low attempt at division and fomenting trouble in your own electorate.

Are you really such an ignorant bigot?

Shame on you!

Homer Simpson

25/11/2011

Oh, I get it "mg", you can take the "inverted commas" off of "journalist" when you figure out how make coherent "sense", yeah?

valerie woodruffe mullaloo wa 6027

25/11/2011

I dont care whether its a muslim sausage, or a gentile sausage, or a jewish sausage, or a hindu sausage, or a budhist sausage, or a sausage of any other faith I will gobble them up ith delight. Now pass the tomato sauce

gazza

25/11/2011

Everyone seems to have missed the point...of WHY there is ' halal'' in the first place...
Its about being obedient to what God commanded...
Acts 15;20....
There is no possible way we are able to drain
ALL blood from any animal, [ example; view your medium rare steak] and God knows this...but it is about being obedient...TRYING to not eat blood. In such, when an animal is bled, we ...and the Islamic community, are doing our best to be obedient...by the cutting of the throat.
Stunning the animal is acceptable because the heart is STILL beating...
what is NOT acceptable is the DELIBERATE refusal to comply [ with the bleeding of the animal] such as in the treatment of rabbits...for food...
They are NOT bled...but should be before beiong eaten.
Religions that TRY to be obedient will not eat rabbit...for the above reason.
The ' halal' practice at least TRIES to be obedient...
There is NO ' conversion' threat here at all.
Polly needs to read his bible.

Steve

25/11/2011

Im more concerned if "Halal" means animals are slaughtered using cruel, outdated methods just for some silly religious ritual. If so, then they should be labeled as such so I can avoid sponsoring this sick practice.

thoughts

25/11/2011

If you think that eating meat slaughtered in a particular way is going to change your beliefs regarding the existence of a god then you must have very weak beliefs.

Regarding the labels, I am all for the labels being put on the food - so that Muslims will know whether the meat has been prepared in a way that is acceptable to them. As I'm not Muslim I pay little attention to whether it is Halal certified or not... in much the same way as I ignore peanut allergy warnings and whether or not food is kosher.

Ian

25/11/2011

Luke is spot on in raising this issue as it is an important one. I believe I should have the right to know what i am eating as well as if i am paying, in this case, an Islamic fee on the food I eat. I think I pay enough tax already without adding a religious one on top. It would be helpful to know how much money Halal Certifying agencies get each year.

waldo

25/11/2011

This is disgusting. All food should be labelled to indicate what religion it will turn you into. It's no wonder I've been feeling sick lately... I think I've eaten Kosher hot dogs, Halal goat, Christian chicken and I suspect my local butcher is an athiest. It's causing my body great pain because those religions are all fighting it out inside my body. Where's Food Standards Australia when you need them?

Lauren

25/11/2011

hahaha what a nutter!

Mag

25/11/2011

Halal food as I understand it relates to Theo food and methods of slaughter Permitted under Islamic law and teachings.
I would suggest that the non labeling of products as halal or containing halal ingredients e.g. Halal gelatine is the real point. It simply means the consumer is not informed when making their choice of purchase. It does not lead to conversion but it may offend people who do not approve of
the slaughter methods involved and who would perhaps prefer not to choose a halal product. Full disclosure on food labeling is the real issue here. No amount of consumption will lead to conversion. Informed choice is what I would argue for.
Gary pork is not considered halal food under Islam.

ruth w.a,

25/11/2011

the sign is on for the muslims so they know food is made to thier requirements. our food should be healthy enough for them,for that reason i dont buy products with that sign on eg Bega cheese,

Peely

25/11/2011

Before you all right this guy off I suggest you look at the money muslims make from the "halal" brand.

Rona Chiera- Moore River

25/11/2011

May contain traces of nuts! Luke Simpkins electorate is in a highly multicultural area and he attends our local school, we need the influence of minority groups to be able to go forward and be united. We need to label food correctly. I am happy with voices of minority groups provided it is one step in the right direction of a united Australia. I represent allergy awareness labelling and that is also heading in the right direction. I love my local award winning, Barbaro Butchers. Luke, surely you are not the grocery buyer in your house, just cook the BBQ will you!!!!

Ian_Mackereth

25/11/2011

This would be just idiot-ranting-in-the-pub funny if he didn't have "MHR" in front of his name.

From his maiden speech: "I want to make mention of a number of ethnic groups within the electorate of Cowan ... They understand that the people of Australia have no issue with race, colour or religion but, rather, regard a person by their actions."

Ahhh... a politician at heart. Say one thing, mean another thing entirely.

Theresa

25/11/2011

Luke, if you stick to pork sausages, you will never be at risk of conversion :-)

deirdre

25/11/2011

I don't know wether to laugh or cry!!!! Is it only in Australia that eating sausages converts you? What happens if we eat bacon? If people eat potatoes, will they become Irish (& Catholic Irish at that!)? Who is this Luke Simpkins anyway? What a silly man to make such an unqualified statement!! I would think the majority of people don't choose a religion just because they like the recipies!!!!
I dont think the journalist is responsible for Mr Simpkins statements!!! Nor do I think the 'muslims' are at the root of Britain's problems,Angela!! What,exactly, were you calling 'disgusting' btw?

Jemz

25/11/2011

Wow! This proves my theory that by watching American crap we become crap Americanos! What a state of affairs Mr Simpkins, you and anyone else who endorses your argument can only be described as an international embarrasment!

khadi

25/11/2011

wow, sounds like some one really cant stand the thought of social cohesion between Islam and the wrest of the world! would you rather us being cattled to off to concentration camps somewhere far away, where you dont have to see us on the streets... i dont see what the big deal is about halal meat, if u dont mind how its killed in the first place, to lot of people, meat is just meat, despite what manner it was killed in

mg

24/11/2011

"We are being unknowingly converted to IGNORANCE"... Why on earth didn't the "journalist" think to ask what he meant, and what he impact he thought 'halal' processing had on the product? Ok, you're reporting something out of Hansard (and nothing more = pathetic journalism), but really, perhaps some explanation of what is involved might be a minimal standard for running the story. Given this week's Sandilands furore, I'd have expected a "journalist" to at least be conscious of the need to give some context - and a little background would have revealed that the WA food handling laws also provide for people with nut allergies. By eating products prepared in accordance to those standards, are we also unknowingly being sucked into supporting those evil peanut allergenics, who are clearly terrorist because they have SUCH an influence on what we eat???

najlaa

24/11/2011

Auh!! really!! and by eating fish wt will you convert to? sea crature!!

najlaa

24/11/2011

Auh!! really!! and by eating fish wt will you convert to? sea crature!!

LKJ

24/11/2011

I'm a Muslim, and often over the last thirty years I've fed my family meat that was slaughtered by Christians (specifically Amish) or Jews (specifically kosher hot dogs). I haven't seen any signs of conversion in them yet.

Gary Rumain

24/11/2011

I hope that doesn't include pork sausages!!

laanecoorie

24/11/2011

We only have our governments to blame.

angela

24/11/2011

Its disgusting. just look at Britain and the muslims and all problems they are causing AUSTRALIA dont do the same !!!!!

Rachel

24/11/2011

What a divisive, xenophobic, horrid little man you are Luke Simpkins.

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